PayPerPost Scrambling – Trying to Implement “RealRank” After Their Bloggers Page Rank Disappears


PayPerPost staff really scrambling to try and figure out what happened. In one post on the PayPerPost Community forums they tried to pin blame on “obvious” Text-Link-Ads and other paid links.

Here is thread here : http://boards.payperpost.com/viewtopic.php?t=9525 No doubt that played a part- but as part of TOS PayPerPost requires all bloggers to have a “Disclosure” somewhere on the site- stating in some way that they accept payment for posts/reviews, etc. Many “posties” have a badge on their site as well- advertising that you can buy a post on their site for set amount of money. If that page is not somewhere or your site- your blogs will be rejected.

Disclosure Page the Culprit?

I have 8 of my own blogs and write on several others.
3 of my blogs are PPP and have disclosure page on them.
2 have paid links WITH nofollow tags,
I knew I was taking a risk when I signed up with PayPerPost and was wary of posting a disclosure page.
I wanted to experiment and see how PPP worked and see if I should recommend to clients, etc. I also work with women who are survivors and we are always looking for ways for them to make money with blogs and be with their kids- and PPP seemed like a great match and I was quite excited to offer it to them as an option.
I signed up for PPP in early September.
Of those 3 blogs -one month ago 1 had PR6 and it is an “authority” site. One had PR5, 1 had PR4.
I personally don’t care about toolbar PR.. it has little bearing in traffic and is a made up value- its value is in what advertisers perceive.
Those 3 blogs dropped late October and then today all of them are pr0.
I have had no drop in traffic.

I have however had a serious drop in PPP income ;-)
I made about 800.00 last month on paid posts. I haven’t taken an opportunity in the 2 weeks since my initial drop.

Reading through this thread on theri forum, http://boards.payperpost.com/viewtopic.php?t=9525 it has been quite sad. So many people- the bulk of the bloggers are stay at home moms or dads trying to supplement their income have had that opportunity snatched away.
I doubt any of them even knew what a nofollow tag was 2 months ago – not many bloggers and site owners did- many other SEO’s I know also didn’t take threat seriously, either.
Now they are paying a very heavy price. It is not an easy thing to bring a site that was at PR4/5/6 back up from zero- it may take a year or more- if ever- to get back.

RealRank To Replace PageRank?

PPP had no idea that such devastation would happen so quickly and I appreciate they are working to come up with “something” to calm down anxious bloggers- or at least hold them off until the new year. They do have plans to launch “Argus” and SocialSpark in January for all its members but in the mean time bloggers are left with empty toolbar and empty pockets.

While I am hopeful about “RealRank” as a possible solution and it may replace page rank – the challenge will be to convince advertisers. They are used to PR and are comfortable with it- selling them on new metric will be difficult.

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            6. I have been following this topic for several weeks. I don’t know why PPP and google have to put all the bloggers in the middle of this mess. Dropping them to a PR 0 did affect the paid links world and many bloggers are making less now but if PPP would just let us use “nofollow” in our paid links we would please google and still get to take opps and qualify for them… It’s all very frustrating and unfair.

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            9. “ReakRank To Replace PageRank?”

              Is that a typo or is it intentional? I just noticed it. :)

              Anyway, how does RealRank works?

            10. Its a Typo- thanks for pointing it out. I am the worst typist on the planet. Many joke with me that English must be my second or third!) language.

              You can read about how RealRank is working here:
              http://www.bigfootwebmarketing.com/2007/11/22/payperpost-to-drop-alexa-and-require-advertisers-to-choose-either-realrank-or-page-rank/

            11. They’ve implemented RealRank alright, but don’t seem to be actively educating the advertisers on its benefits over PR.

            12. I don;t know what steps PPP have taken to encourage advertiser user of RealRank. Back when the first hit happened in mid-October the writing was on the wall.
              I don;t know if it was naivete or a panacea for PayPerPost bloggers, but RealRank is an almost impossible sell. I worked as a link builder for several years. Site owners are looking for Google rank- like it or not they are buying page rank when they buy a link on a blog.
              I know some sites will direct excellent traffic and this would be hard to prove to potential clients. I have said from the beginning that IZEA/Paperport should offer advertisers HUGE incentives to adopt real rank into their buying- off ads a huge discount, or guarantee or free for a limited time.

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